Interactive Trading Setups Disscussion

**kor4x** · 10-10-2013, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Admin

here it's the pattern i was referring to above, the shark pattern, EURJPY M15 -> Attachment 3893

I did not expect such a nice rally on EURJPY, monitor shows me the emerging bat bearish pattern (close to the PRZ zone), but it's against the higher timeframe XABCD bullish diagonal pattern, so I am going to skip it.

**kor4x** · 10-10-2013, 04:07 PM

happy to place this screenshot here because both entries (diagonal pattern entry and shark pattern entry) were very precisily spotted by my price & time analysis

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**sly_fox** · 10-10-2013, 07:47 PM

Hello guys ; )

I almost end my retakes exams (stupid financial engineering) and i back to tradin' a little bit
so eurusd 1 opportunity to long and next for short:
https://www.tradingview.com/x/N0Q6xwcg/
Eurjpy 4h-1h:
big bearish bat
AudUsd 4h: bearish gartley m15: ab=cd
NzdUsd 4h somthing like rgr i think.

**xspojlerx** · 10-10-2013, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by kor4x

was answering this already in this thread, you may want to check the history

Kor4x: I check all your post with "time" word in this trade, but I don't find clearly explain

I guess you mean AB to CD leg time measure like this post:
Interactive Trading Setups Disscussion
And CD leg can't be shorter (in time) than AB.
Am I right?

If I have right, how much longer (in time) can be CD leg using fibo time zones? or maybe you using something else to measure it?

Regards

**kor4x** · 10-10-2013, 10:16 PM

@xspojlerx could be that i was mentioning it in other thread, and not here. Strange.

Anyway, it's not that easy as you suggest above.
I analyse several timeframes in the time and price formulas, apply several Fibo filters and geometry patterns rules, measure price dynamics within swings, calculate multitimeframe price & time fracatals and compare them with the chart history, ...finally glue the results. Sounds complex, sorry, ...but actually it is complex. Spent 3 years on this and still I am right in around 50% of cases. But when I am right I am lucky to be very precise :-) so I can aim to spot the high timeframes turns with up to the 2-3 minutes precision. A lot of fun and work, but worth it.

**lobogabor** · 10-10-2013, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by kor4x

@xspojlerx could be that i was mentioning it in other thread, and not here. Strange.

Anyway, it's not that easy as you suggest above.
I analyse several timeframes in the time and price formulas, apply several Fibo filters and geometry patterns rules, measure price dynamics within swings, calculate multitimeframe price & time fracatals and compare them with the chart history, ...finally glue the results. Sounds complex, sorry, ...but actually it is complex. Spent 3 years on this and still I am right in around 50% of cases. But when I am right I am lucky to be very precise :-) so I can aim to spot the high timeframes turns with up to the 2-3 minutes precision. A lot of fun and work, but worth it.

Can you post the pics with the time aspects on them, so we could see that too?
You asked about how to call the method you are using, instead of harmonic trading... suggest call it timeonic trading then LOL.

**lobogabor** · 10-10-2013, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by kor4x

happy to place this screenshot here because both entries (diagonal pattern entry and shark pattern entry) were very precisily spotted by my price & time analysis

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kor4x: I still think the "shark" is not up to the shark specification. No doubt worked out fine, and the scenario is very nicely drawn out, but still bothering me to call a harmonic to something what it is not.
And it is not due to the CD leg, since D was a fib 88.6 of XA which is OK, but has not met the AB fibex minimum requirement of 1.618 (max 2.24)...
What is it then?
Also, pls post an explanation / link for me for the "XABCD bullish diagonal pattern" I have no idea of what it is.
Tnx.

**xspojlerx** · 10-11-2013, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by kor4x

@xspojlerx could be that i was mentioning it in other thread, and not here. Strange.

Anyway, it's not that easy as you suggest above.
I analyse several timeframes in the time and price formulas, apply several Fibo filters and geometry patterns rules, measure price dynamics within swings, calculate multitimeframe price & time fracatals and compare them with the chart history, ...finally glue the results. Sounds complex, sorry, ...but actually it is complex. Spent 3 years on this and still I am right in around 50% of cases. But when I am right I am lucky to be very precise :-) so I can aim to spot the high timeframes turns with up to the 2-3 minutes precision. A lot of fun and work, but worth it.

In spare time I'm dig deeper to your posts in other thread

But, after your description, I understand, it's higher level and ancient knowledge

50% it's better than good with small SL and good R:R level

**kor4x** · 10-11-2013, 06:53 AM

@lobo: timeonic

... it's not only time analysis, it's also the price patterns, ones from here -> Market Geometry & Harmonic Patterns

**kor4x** · 10-11-2013, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by lobogabor

kor4x: I still think the "shark" is not up to the shark specification. No doubt worked out fine, and the scenario is very nicely drawn out, but still bothering me to call a harmonic to something what it is not.
And it is not due to the CD leg, since D was a fib 88.6 of XA which is OK, but has not met the AB fibex minimum requirement of 1.618 (max 2.24)...
What is it then?
Also, pls post an explanation / link for me for the "XABCD bullish diagonal pattern" I have no idea of what it is.
Tnx.

Yes, I understand you point ... but as I am saying this what I call harmonic is not what other put in their materials.

Just to give you a couple of hints, check the B location ( 61.8% ), check the D location measured as extension from AB (127%), check D location comparing to XA (88.6%), check D location comparing to BC swing (127%), check the structure of CD swing and small XABCD diagonal pattern within it. Hard to find more harmonic pattern that this one

... but yes, books will not mention it.
You may also try to play with with Fibo time measurements combinations and/or Fischer analysis for the Time ratios.
Also also judge by by eyes if this pattern looks symetric and nice.
It's pure harmony ... for me.
Will it work always?! Of course not, ...but fine tuning the entry from lower TF and proper locating the pattern on the higher timeframes gives you extra edge. The rest what will be left is how our psyche stands it, ... but it's another topic.

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