Failed or not failed harmonic pattern depends on the size of SL and TP. This means depends how you trade harmonics and where you position your SL and TP.
Also, failed pattern does not necessary mean lost money or lost opportunity. You can for example check this thread -> Trading Gartley negation where trading failed Gartley pattern concept is presented.
This means I am not able to easily explain/answer to your "that harmonic patterns are not RELIABLE". For me they are very reliable and price patterns is my favourite and best method of trading.
Harmonic patterns can be confirmed in different ways. Check table of contents thread for Gartley, Bat, Butterfly, 121 to see different confirmations we consider (link to Gartley pattern ToC: Gartley pattern - table of content )
Anyway, what we are trying here is to investigate Gann techniques and validate how Gann trading methods can be combined with harmonic trading. Gann methods predict market turns timing and price levels when it happens. Seems to be ideal to combine it with identification of the D point for the harmonic patterns.
hope it explains a bit
+242 pips, straight rally without chance to jump in on lower TF..
pretty unusual on H4 TF
see my attached screenshot please ...
the mark you did is on 360deg price level (blue arrow) measured from the A point price level (another blue arrow).
In the same time I applied the Gann price method but only for the CD swing, this resulted with 68deg (orange arrow) level.
Both 360deg and 68deg did not act too precise here, but converged in about the same place.
Is your green mark also indicated by Gann time analysis, is it where price was equal to time?
see my first post(#42) about this trade, green mark at 100.60 is where price=time from A point
bullish butterfly on AUDUSD H1, waiting for entry signal
Is there someting similar in GBPJPY H4, though I donnot trade FX..
AUDUSD entry on 1.0319, shoulda be 1.0315 but was omw to work
nice price reaction on this butterfly pattern, well done, drapi ->
Hi guys, just came back from a little trip, i dont know if you could find this useful, it's a modify SQ9 gann indicator it plot automatically the various levels and degree... it updates itself every day... take a look
Hello fellow Gann fans. It's good to find fellow traders that have a common interest. I still need to work on this SQ9 thing myself. I've just found, through trial and error, that for me, when it comes to "where price meets time," properly drawn trendlines have done wonders. But then comes the, define the word "properly" when drawing trendlines. But I'm enjoying the journey. Here's a chart I drew up last night just by using fib ratios and this whole Golden Ratio concept. Still playing around with it. And here's some Gann indicators I've found elsewhere.